Let's Talk with Leaha & Rhonda

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about a system of higher education. Hi, this is Leah Crawford.

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And I'm Rhonda Nolan.

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Welcome to the Let's Talk with Leah and Rhonda show.

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We're here for you and we're ready to go.

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Let's do it.

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Good morning, Las Vegas.

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Hey, Leah, how you doing? It's cold. It's still cold. You know, you move to the desert and you really don't expect this. You know, I expected sunshiny days all day every day. It's cold. It is. I must have to say, you know, this is my birthday week so I celebrated my birthday on Wednesday. Yay! But I had to put on my fur jacket Wednesday night. But you know I feel some kind of way, right? What? Because every year you have a dinner and you invite all of us. And you didn't invite us to dinner.

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I knew it.

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I knew it. But that's okay. You know what? I am going to deal with that.

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I'm going to do the work.

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And I'm going to deal with that. But you normally invite us to dinner. You know, last year she set us up at the dinner. She had placed, you know, it was about 30 of us. She had seating arrangements, told us where we were going to sit and everything. Yeah, but you didn't invite us this year though.

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It's okay. This year I did a little something different.

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Whatever.

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You know, a little quieter.

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Whatever.

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Whatever.

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Whatever.

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I'm just in my feelings a little bit.

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That's okay.

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I'm going to cry and get over it. But I want to say today we have somebody special in the studio.

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We do.

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We do. This Saturday morning. You know, it's not easy getting busy people.

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Yes.

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Because you can tell true entrepreneurs because when you tell them that you're going to do something and they like you want to know what I don't know my date look here I'm busy I'm doing stuff and if you know anything about this man you know he's it's hard to sit him down and catch him for half an hour so I would like to welcome mr. Marcus Allen to the studio hey mr. Allen hey mr. Allen hello how you ladies doing we're doing good every blessed birthday thank you very much I appreciate that. No, maybe 16. Absolutely. You want to know what he like? You know what? I need to make a living. I need to look at 21. Right. Very much. You know, she like you. You like him now. Right. Thank you. 21. OK. But we're here to talk about just one of your business ventures, though, because we with this pandemic, you know, people are reinventing themselves and we know you had a barber school and, you know, tell us about it. What made you decide to open a barber school?

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Well, what made me actually decide to open up a barber school was I opened up my first shop in 2004 and I saw the need for it because the barber profession has started to lose its mojo. me to go ahead. I felt a lot of students was well it's not students but barbers but they became students as they was barbering inside my shop so I had to teach them a lot of things in the process of them just being a barber inside the shop and I was like these are the things you should learn while you was in school so why is I'm teaching this? I'm just about it I'm frankly an instructor inside my own barbershop. So I felt there's a need for it and also bring the professionalism back into barbering. Oh okay. Yes, it is a loss is a lost part with the professionalism. I mean I see some guys go inside the shop with Tank tops on with white beaters on flip-flops shorts I mean and you gotta understand back in the day that the older barbers they can't dress like doctors. That's right They did white jacket. They did they can't dress like doctors with their hair groomed and everything, you know And I'm really stay professional inside the shop because you never know who's actually inside the shop though so you want to stay professional you got mothers you have pastors you have officers doctors lawyers inside the shop but we are very um so not angles I'm not gonna say we but some is very unprofessional very

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nice setting okay so well then let's back up then because Marcus Allen who is Marcus Allen who is Marcus Allen?

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Well, first of all, I'd like to welcome y'all to our city.

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Thank you for having us.

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Thank you so much.

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You guys are talking about our weather and things. Y'all are suspecting something else when you moved here. See, we've been here. We grew up here, so we're used to it.

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OK.

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You know what I'm saying? Because what y'all are complaining about now, you'll be complaining about this summer when it gets so hot.

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I ain't know it is hot.

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I love the heat.

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No, we love the heat.

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I love the heat. But I like the snow. I'm true to transparency. It's really not that cold and it's no snow. So that's why I stay because it's no snow, but sometimes it gets cold.

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I truly believe, but not really though.

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Not nobody's staying 112, 115, triple digits in the summertime.

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I don't mind it. I will take the heat over the cold any day. Yeah, I take it. So everything you touch you burn your fingers and hands When I walk out to my garage my car is at a good temperature

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To the grocery store now. I

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Get in the car

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Strategically arrow you do it strategically do I do it strategically and I shop at night too Cuz he's cooler at night and it's less people in the grocery store if you go at night So if you go to a 24-hour grocery store, you'll see me in there at 10 11 o'clock at night

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sometime midnight doing my shopping. Okay anyway back on track though I'm a native I've been here 51 years my father and my mother also native so this is our town, this is our state, this is Las Vegas, this is our city. Okay. And I welcome you guys here. So I was born here, raised here, I'm glued to the city, the community, really went through some changes in my life as growing up through poverty and through the projects. I grew up in a project and things like that. So when I got older, I wanted to see something different. When I got older, I didn't want to fall into the streets where you get set back and then you become part of the system. You know what I'm saying? I wanted to break that curse, that generation curse right there, because my uncle had spent some time in jail and in prison and I said man, maybe that's my way I don't like my end up the same way and I was like, no, you know what it has to be different But I felt myself going that route not intentionally It just fell into my lap and I had to deal with it from there So when I realized I was going that route, I realized I didn't want to be in prison That wasn't a place for me to be, you know, so it was more to me than being in prison. So I did run the streets for a while, but realized it wasn't my career, my profession. So I found something that kind of relate to me that was closer to the streets that I had the freedom that I had when I was in the streets that I have also in the professional business.

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Nice, so far.

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So what I did is, yeah, so what I did is, I changed my product, but I kept my same hustle. So what I did in the streets, I still do now, I just have a different product so instead of putting some guys on the block and behind I'm putting some guys on the block put them on the streets I was putting guys behind chairs and starting a profession starting in my career and starting in my family and starting illness and then I've grown a lot of individuals that actually became barbershop owners and also barber school that's fabulous so I mean even I even create my own competition.

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That's all.

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You created your own competition.

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I love that.

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You created your own competition. That's right. That's right. Because as business people, it's enough money out there to feed everybody. It's enough. We can all help each other and help each other grow and be mentors. I'm sure you're mentors to those folks who open up the lobby.

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Oh, definitely. I just got a phone call earlier today with one of the guys. But you got to understand what God have for you, we have for you.

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That's right.

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No man or woman or anybody can hinder that. So it's yours, it's yours. Don't worry about what everybody else is gonna get. If they get more than you, it's no problem. God got what he said, what he had for you is what is for you.

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That's right. But you do have, but you had a barber school and how many students would you say a year

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actually come through your school?

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We average almost about 89 to 100 students a year. Any given time we enroll 60 students. Okay.

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So we have 40 during the day and 20 during the night. All right. So what I am, I want to, I want to be a barber. What do I do?

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You have to come to me. No, you actually want to be a barber in the state of Nevada. You have to have a GED or high school diploma. The only thing about it though, by the state law, you don't have to be 16 and a half years old you can start barber school if you have a GED or high school diploma.

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Oh wow, okay, GED or high school diploma.

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And a valid ID.

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And a valid ID.

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So I come and, well we didn't, what's the name of the barbershop?

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The barber school is Masterpiece Barber School.

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Masterpiece Barber School.

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Established in 2015.

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2015, and what's the name of the barbershop?

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The barbershop is Masterpiece Barber Shop, established in 2004.

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Okay, and do you have multiple locations or? Yes we have

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um Lake Mead and Martin Luther King, Martin Luther King and Cheyenne and also Rainbow and

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Vegas Drive. Rainbow and Vegas Drive so three locations so the good thing is is that you can go to the barber school and if you want to go into a shop you have those chairs available to it. Oh most definitely. Most definitely. Job placement. Job placement love it. All right so let's talk about it. Okay, so I come in, Leah Crawford, I come fill out my application. Then what's the next steps?

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So what it actually takes is doing a barber school. At the present time, we don't have no financial aid, no student loan. We're working on that. But at the time, no barber school in the state of Nevada actually had that. I'm quite sure we all are working on it. But the process is to come, you actually have to have a $3,000 deposit. The total cost is $15,000. Once you put the $3,000 down, we give you an application. You fill the application out, you return it back to us. We give you a state board application, which is a state of Nevada Barber board application. You take that, have a TB test, and then also get it notarized with a $25 money order, and we send it over to the Barber board, and then you actually get onto our waiting list. Our waiting list averaged up to, it was six months to almost eight months for my waiting list.

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Wow.

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Yes. I have a lengthy waiting list. It has shortened up a little bit though, so that's a blessing right there. So we're almost down to almost like a month or two to actually get a student into the course.

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So you basically start a group of students at the same time?

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No, we actually don't start. We actually would wait for one student and wait for 10 students all finished at one time. It would be a longer list. Okay. So everyone would reach their 1500 hours at a different time. Got it. So once one start, one graduate, then another one start after that one graduate. So you act like every week you'll probably have like three to four to actually graduate with that week. So within the next week on that Monday, you actually have three to four to actually start. So it's in rotation instead of pause and have somebody wait for this one last student that never come to school, never show up, always have a flat tire, his battery was dead, his dog ate his homework. You know, you got nine other students waiting for this guy. So I didn't want to, I want to be fair with it across the board and let another individual start up when another one finish. Nice. Rotation. Rotation. So it's

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$3,000 down. I come in, I fill out my application and that process starts and then I take, I get another $25 money order and I fill out another application.

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That's for the Levada State Barber. So ours is an in-house application. That's our application. But once you complete that, then we give the Levada State Barber Board for a student application. That's for to get your student license once you start school.

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Gotcha.

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So you have to have a license.

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You have to have a license even to be in school.

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Yes, a student.

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Yes.

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So then now, after I put my $3,000 down, when do I need to have my other $12,000? Can I break that up in payment?

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How does that work?

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That's good.

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Just to mention that. We give you payment first through the 15th at $600. So on to the end of the course and whatever main imbalance you have after that you pay that before you actually take the test

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Okay, okay. So you have to be paid in full before you take the test. Oh, most definitely. Okay, you might not come back No, I mean but that's but that's good to know because I Never knew how you got to be a barber. I just know that you know, you go to the barber, right? I mean, I know there was the cosmetology school, right? But never knew that you really had to do stuff to be.

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Because I thought you learned barbering in cosmetology school,

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but that's not the case.

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You have to go to special barber school to learn how to be a barber.

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Correct.

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Yes, most definitely.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So prior to this,

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no, there's no, there's no, there's nothing too much different from where we are right now. We're you and I'll be and even though you you whatever your career. No, no, I ain't gonna say your major, let's go back to your major is, you gotta take them courses that deals with that major.

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Right.

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So with barbering, you got to deal with these courses that deal with barbering instead of cosmetology. Now, do a lot of kind of come close together? Is it married together? Yes, somewhat, but it's a lot different. And ours is more procedural because we deal with a razor. So a razor is more so deadly than any pair of shears because you actually shaving a man under his neck, his main veins, he can easily slice, cut, nick. So we have to deal with that. You know, it's a lot more serious because, and the reason why, let me explain this, the average time for a response, an emergency response, what we say about, it's down to about 8 to 10 minutes. So it take you no more than about 3 to 5 minutes that you can bleed out.

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Wow.

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Oh.

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We don't look at it like that. So that's why we take barbering a little bit more serious. I'm not saying we're better than anyone, we're taking it a little bit more serious.

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I understand.

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Things can happen, I just think it can happen and can cost somebody their life.

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Wow, okay. All right, so then I'm a student, I come through, I take the class, I'm paying my money, I'm taking the courses, then I graduate and I take a board exam or am I a barber when I graduate? You have to get theory

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into the effect first. Okay. You know what I'm saying? You have to have 200 hours of theory and 1,300 hours of practical. Okay. That's a 1,500 hour course. Right. So therefore we do teach every individual how to cut hair, how to properly cut hair. Now you got YouTube, we got social media, we have all these things out there that a person can figure something out on getting close to but in a professional way we teach you the professional way on how you should cut hair and a very safe way to cut hair because on our license it says health and sanitation. They're the two most important things. Health dealing with the body, sanitation is keeping the

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cleanliness of it. You have to have them two right there. Got it. So all right so I come in after I take my

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and I have to take my exam. Well you do as you finish the course as you finish that two and hour of theory and then 1300 hours of practical that means and now you really look at it that means you spend more time on the practical floor learning how to professionally cut hair because it's 1300 hours over there on the floor cutting. It's only 200 hours not even a third of you into the theory portion of it. And then once you finish that, then we prepare you to take the Levada State Barber Board exam, which that consists of a shampoo, a gentleman cut, and a 14-step shave.

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It's 14 steps to a shave.

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It's 14 steps to a shave.

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It's 14 steps, do we know that it's 14 steps to a shave. So if I wanted to contact the barber school to start, what's the contact information for them to contact the contact information we had a

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masterpiece barber school lv.com and also we located at 3510 East West Benno East Bonanza and the phone number is 702-438-2887

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nope say that slower I need slower because I'm driving so it's masterpiece barber school LV yes ma'am dot-com dot-com masterpiece so the masterpiece master is a masterpiece and that even it's all in the name right masterpiece barber school LV dot-com

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located at 3510 East Bonanza on the corner of Bonanza and East Lake Mead

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I think you might be looking at one of the locations.

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He has more than one location ladies and gentlemen.

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He has more than one location but the school is on the corner of Bonanza and Pecos.

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Yes ma'am. Bonanza and Pecos and the number once again is? The number to the school? The number to the school.

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702-438-2887.

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I have a question for you.

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I have a son and he needs to get his hair cut.

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Do you have, let people come get their hair cut so the students can practice?

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Oh, not to be boasting or bragging, but we have one of the busiest barber school in the state of Nevada.

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Wow.

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With a lot of customers that come there, constantly, every day. So that give our students the edge because they get constantly practiced that whole 13 and hour. So they get really fresh and ready for the barbershop when they come down to the barbershop. So yes, we do take outside clients. They come in, walk-ins, we do do that. The haircuts average for a kid is $10, and then for adults, $15. If the adult want a haircut and a shave, it's $20, especially with the shutdown. You were saying, we're seeing the economy kind of getting slow right now. Some people need that break right now. And we think that, oh, they're just students. They're going to mess us up. They don't know what they're doing. We have some really good Instructors that construct a student that never could have before through a nice haircut. Mm-hmm. It's not so much of the student It's the instructors and we have some real good instructors over there. We got mr. Green, which is head instructor. We have mr. G Hispanic instructor we have mr. Hack over there. You got me myself as an instructor and also mr Man over there as an instructor. Okay, so we have instructions over there. We're ready. That's fantastic. Now so can I bring my son in at any time? At seven, six days a week or what time? We six days a week Monday through Friday. We cut from 8 to 6 30 at night. Oh fantastic. 8 a.m. to 6 30 at night. That's wonderful. So all you, so all you parents out there and you have children and need a wonderful haircut, bring them on down to the hair school and they'll get them all shaped up and ready to go. Yes.

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Nice. I love it. I love it.

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But we talk, you skipped over something you was about to touch on it.

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That you pull off.

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I can't let it go because people like to know where the name come from. Right, where does the name come from? Because it's a master that's always in charge and he put a bunch of pieces together. And we know that once you, it's like a puzzle. You have a bunch of pieces, but once you put all the pieces together, you finally get to see the picture. So the master is, as I always say, I always say masterpiece, God's plan is the master plan. So all come together in a bunch of pieces together to come and make everything as a whole. So that's why I say I have other barber schools. worked under me or for me or a lot of other barbershops. They either work for me and I'm not saying it's just me, work for Masterpiece because I don't want to seem like it's about me. It's not about me at all. It's about the brand, the brand itself. They have some piece of that brand. So it's a bunch of Masterpieces everywhere. All over. All over. Sprinkling everywhere.

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Just sprinkling.

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You're just all over the valley.

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Yes, ma'am.

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You are in the personal service business and education business. What happened when COVID-19 happened? What happened to your business? And how did you feel during that time when we got shut down and didn't really know what was going to happen?

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Well, one thing about since I was a barber, but I'm not a barber, I'm a retired barber, but I still have one more. I have like two customers. That's the doctor and his son. He had told me in January. Well, actually, I believe I had COVID in December.

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Before December 2019, before March 2020.

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I had just came back from China in November, actually Thanksgiving I had China, I had Thanksgiving in China at McDonald's.

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Oh wow.

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That was my Thanksgiving too.

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Wow.

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So when I came back I immediately got sick and I've been as sick as I've ever been in my entire life and can nobody tell me what was wrong with me. So I flew on that plane for like 22 hours back from China and I was in... With all those people and no mask on. And the guy told me to bring some masks. I had some masks in my backpack. I said, man, I'm not supposed to ride this plane with no mask on. 22 hours. 22 hours. And I got off there and I was sniffing and sniffing. I said, oh my God. I said, nah, it's just a plane, it's a plane, but I ain't got really sick. But my doctor warned me in January, he said, man, you got to get ready because they getting ready to shut everything down. I said no doc You kind of losing it They in Washington DC right now have a meeting on how they gonna shut this country down Mm-hmm. I said that can't be no way possible And I say, you know what he said go stock up on groceries and things you gotta get because everything is gone He told you that in January January and then round March my daddy's birthday was March 3rd He was turning 70 at the time. We had a 70th birthday party for him in June. We had, we had did that right there. And we had the party and I told everybody at his party, and everybody thought I was losing it. I was like, hey, you guys, it's getting ready to shut down. And that's the same night that we had the party at my office.

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And I was telling everybody this and everybody, it was a bunch of preachers and pastors in there.

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And they like, what a little, what a little, Lord Jesus, what's going on with those folks? What's really going on? And lo and behold, it came about and then they said, wow, how did you know that?

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Now you a prophet.

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I'm a prophet.

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You're a prophet.

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Yeah, exactly. But it did slow a lot of things down. But as far as the barbing industry, I thought it was going to really just knock it out the box because COVID was a hands-on type thing. It was passing through hands-on. That's what us barbers, we do. It's hands-on. But me and my instructors, instead of when we shut the school down for the time period, we met on every Saturday we met. We came away from my house and we met at the school, which the school was boarded up at the time, so they didn't want nobody to vandalize the school while we were gone. So we would take the boards down every day and we would sit away from each other. And we were discussing and having meetings on how we were going to safely reopen. So we were going over and over, so we all would have homework to go home and see how we can we fight this thing because we can't rely on someone else, a doctor or someone to say what would be weird or instruct we are the instructors right so we're the ones supposed to know who know barber more so than we do right so we came up with a procedure plan on how we can open and then it's somehow incorporated into the barber board they they came over one day and they saw what we was actually putting together on how we was going to safely reopen. So when they got a call from up North saying how and what you guys going to do, and they say, well, hey, we got some individuals over here got a real good plan on how we can do that. And they, um, they took the plan and, um, put it in effect. And, um, we safely reopened it. And then the thing was that we were the one to actually come up with the, with the, uh, the, the idea. And we was the last one they let open.

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Oh wow!

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They let the barber shop, they let the barber shop and the beauty shop open and say well the schools can't open. I said well the plan was for the schools.

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Right, right.

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We put the plan in place.

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What do you mean? We put the plan in place. What happened? They said no, no you guys got to shut back down. We open. No you guys got to shut back down and wait, reopen. I said okay. Wow. But on the flip side of it, I thought that the industry was really going to kind of like fall apart from there I thought the school's gonna slow down But it took a turning point because it slowed everybody down and made everybody slow down and really rethink What they really want to do in life will do they want to keep continue with the life They was already living and a lot of people came with changes in their life And they said well, I don't want to this happen again. I'm working at the casino I don't want this to happen to me So now I can take this money that I have with this blessing I got, whatever blessing they got during the time of that, and they said, well I can enter the barber school and I can be my own boss. I have time to do it now. So the barber school went on to another level because it actually came back booming, more so

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than it was before it had closed down. Mm-hmm. Shocking. You're right about that. A lot of us who didn't have essential jobs, you know, who we had to shut our businesses down, had to figure out how we were going to pivot. And a lot of people who worked for the hospitality business said to myself, oh my God, we don't like this. You know, if Cesar, MGM, or Boyd Gaming shut down and told us not to come to work, what are we gonna do? How are we gonna feed our families? We need a side hustle. Oh my God, now's the time to go back to school and whatever that side hustle was, whether you're a barber or a nail tech or, you know, any of those services, personal services people have to have, right? Because you're not a doctor or a dentist, you know, we know that's

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a fact, right?

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But all those other personal services that we need that are so important to us, you could provide those services to us even though said other companies have closed. So it was very important for you. So your business went up. This election, you know, what? That's so funny. There are small business owners that either they did well during covid or they didn't do well. It just depended on what your business was or what product or service you were offering

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people.

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Yeah, no, that was actually it was a pivot point for a lot of people, a lot of people, but I am happy to hear I want to give the name of the barber school. So it's masterpiece and just know that this name he took time to think about this name, masterpiece barber school, located in the shopping center. It's on the corner of Bonanza and Pecos, but let's give the correct street address.

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3510 East Bonanza 89110.

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Again.

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3510 East Bonanza 89110.

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And then give them the phone number Rhonda because I love the way you say it. Come on, Rhonda, I'm sorry. Give it to him, come on.

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I like Marcus's voice.

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I can say it a little bit.

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Say it a little bit better, come on.

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702-438-2887. Right. So he has services if you have children and need haircuts please come see him. He is open every day from 9 until 6 with cuts on Monday through Friday and from 9 until 12 on Saturday. So bring your children in. And actually guys he is actually in the school. He spends time at the school. Yeah.

0:26:21
He spends time, it was hard for us to get him in here, but he spends time at the school.

0:26:27
I was doing construction today.

0:26:28
Well, you were doing construction today. You were doing construction today, but you do spend a lot of time at the school.

0:26:33
I went to school. I check on my baby.

0:26:35
You check on, you check on, see?

0:26:36
I have that master key.

0:26:37
Them are kids.

0:26:38
Those are your kids.

0:26:39
Yeah, I take care of the kids.

0:26:39
Got a whole lot of them. Got a whole lot of them.

0:26:41
Got a whole lot of them.

0:26:42
And small business owners who maybe didn't make it through COVID and you're thinking about what I'm going to do next, maybe

0:26:47
you should check out being a barber. So you know what you know what you know what and that no it may be not be a barber for you but the small business owner what is your whatever your love is for your business that you're doing turn that into your own school. You teach somebody else what you already doing. I like that I like that I like that so with that I'm just gonna be mean the barber and the barber in school none of that every every each individual have a lesson to teach someone they say it take iron to sharpen iron we sharpen each other, we'll be even sharper.

0:27:16
Well I can tell y'all, when going to his school, just spending time with him is absolutely, I mean awesome, because he's always dropping nuggets wherever he is, whoever he's around, and most importantly he's a giver. He doesn't mind giving, he doesn't mind sharing information, he's not one of those entrepreneurs where I can't tell you how I did this. He'll lay the plan out for you, lay the plan out for you, tell you all everything you need to know. Well, Mr. Allen, thank you.

0:27:40
Thank you guys for having me. Thank you for coming.

0:27:42
Yes.

0:27:43
Appreciate it. I really, I truly appreciate that. And with that, I am Leah Crawford.

0:27:47
I am Rhonda Nolan, but wait a minute, don't you have a message for the people today?

0:27:50
Oh, I think, I think we almost out of time.

0:27:53
We have time for your message.

0:27:55
My message is we are accepting new clients at Crawford Management Group. We are located downtown Las Vegas. So if you are looking for a tax home somewhere to get your taxes done by someone that cares about you and is going to look at the whole person, please contact us, 702-3825-737. Again, 702-3825-737. And with that, Rhonda, that ends our show for this evening.

0:28:18
Thank you so much and see you next Saturday. Thank you so much and see you next Saturday.

0:28:19
Bye-bye.

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