Let's Talk with Leaha & Rhonda

Speaker 1 0:00
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Speaker 2 0:23
Hi, my name is Leah Crawford. And I'm Rhonda Nolan and you're listening to the let's talk with Leah and Rhonda show for all the beautiful entrepreneurs out there. This is for you. Hey, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. This is Lea Crawford less talk with me and Rhonda Good morning Las Vegas. Hope you are doing absolutely fabulous this morning. Rhonda is not here today. But I gotta have a co host that comes in every once in a while to to help me make it through this fabulous show. Mr. West, Mike. Good morning. How you doing? I'm doing amazing. How were you?

Unknown Speaker 0:58
All busy? Busy, busy, busy.

Speaker 2 1:01
Busy, busy, busy, busy? Well, I can tell you is hot. Because normally I would say that because Rondo went to her workout. Yeah, and I would just say is hot. And I didn't exercise. I know she had mentioned that. I know she'd mentioned that. So you know, exercise? Absolutely. No, no, neither one of us did run with that. Take that with you. Sorry. All right. So today we have a special guest. Because how many times in business? Do you say you're gonna get a website? I've seemed like it'd be all right. And then you get the website and then the website don't work. You can't you know, contact information is not updated. You do it one time. And don't forget to you know, you forget to do that. You

Unknown Speaker 1:40
got to do it consistent. Nothing. But thanks. After a while.

Speaker 2 1:43
Yeah, links after a while, and then you wonder why people can't contact? Yeah. Well, today we have somebody special in the studio. And that is what he does. Oh, excellent website. So I'd like to welcome Mr. Ben Kang. Ben, welcome to our show.

Unknown Speaker 1:58
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 1:59
Hey, fabulous to be here. So websites, that's what you do. Right?

Speaker 3 2:05
That is what I do. Yes. I've been doing it for quite some time. Now. You know, I've always been interested in the website design and all that even back in like, the geo city days, and you know, with Yahoo and all of that. So yeah. Geo said, Man,

Speaker 1 2:21
I've been on the internet since like, 99. And that's some old stuff. Yeah. Web 1.0. That's like microblogging sites. So it's like, you know, like how, like, it used to just be blogs. Were just like, oh, some texts and some pictures. And it was like, super simple. It's like that. You'd make your own custom little web page, but very bare bones. Very little stuff. You could do customizing. Did they even have CSS? Do they even have anything like that?

Unknown Speaker 2:45
They did, but it was nothing like what it is. Yeah.

Speaker 2 2:48
Okay, so you want to know what's the now y'all know? They did it. They lost me. Okay. 9099 99

Speaker 1 2:56
they're there. It's it's been defunct for a while. It didn't last past like, was around like when MySpace was big still. Once kind of once things kind of went from to give you an idea, like MySpace to Facebook. That's kind of when geo cities kind of died out. Got it blogging,

Speaker 2 3:12
because I remember because I remember when you know, the internet, I believe in Castile had a phonebook because the internet was dial up. Right? Remember, you had to listen to it down to the line. And then hope that it connected with the phone? Yeah, thank you, the other person had to get off the phone, to use internet, get off the phone because they had to use the internet, not the case anymore. And websites, of course, have evolved. Because I mean, the evolution of technology. So tell me, Ben, I'm an entrepreneur. I know I want a website. Where do I start?

Speaker 3 3:48
You know, it's really easy to get started these days, especially with all the technology that's out there in the world. So if you just wanted something really quick and easy, there's a lot of different tools that you can use, like Wix, for example. It's something that's really to get out easy to get started. Because it's more of like that drag and drop feature where you don't really need to know how to code, you don't need to know how to program, you don't even really need any design skills, because they have templates and everything that's ready to use. And so you can really just get started today. And if you just want something quick and easy up right now, that's something that you can just get started or they have a free trial. So that's one of the tools that you can use. There's a lot of different tools that you can use as well. Like there's Squarespace as well. That's another tool that a lot of people like to utilize if they don't have a lot of skill sets. But as your business scales and you want to do a little bit more e commerce, you want more autonomy with your website, that's when you want to build something a little more customized.

Speaker 2 4:39
Okay, so first, never did this before, just start. So get something real simple just to start. business grows, website needs to evolve with it and roll with it, but you're more. Alright, so I am a small business owner. I sell widgets. I want to put the widgets on my website and I want you to click to buy widget can that happen? One? Well, no, it can't happen. But big businesses, you see it all the time. Yeah, small businesses, somebody buys it. And maybe only have to, somebody buys it to was still on the website. I mean, what are the things that I can do to make sure that my website stays up to date?

Speaker 3 5:17
There's, you know, a lot of like, different resources out there, I would say like, you know, there's YouTube, you know, if there's any kind of question that you have, YouTube is always a very good resource. I mean, when it comes to like web development, web design, or whatever the case may be, YouTube's always a good resource. There's another tool called medium that's mostly blogging, they have a lot of good blog articles regarding web development, web design for beginners and for advanced, you know, developers and people that wants to have a website. So really, any type of, you know, question that you may have, someone has already had it many times before in the past. So chances are, whatever problem that you're trying to solve, it's already out there. So I would say, first, try to do your research because of any type of issue that you might be running into. Chances are, there's a solution out there. And if not, then you know, you can always seek a professional help with whatever that you're, you know, dealing with.

Speaker 2 6:04
Alright, so now, I started the business, I went to Wix, I got it set up. Now I need somebody to come in and do it. What exactly do you do?

Speaker 3 6:14
What I do is I do a lot more customized web application and development. And so if someone's really looking to scale their website, I do actually recommend not using something like Wix because, again, Wix is very good. If you're just getting started. Okay, if you want just something out the door, you need something you know, today, it's always me

Speaker 2 6:31
my name and my address and my phone number on something. splash page. Does that was it? Was that the right term? That's a good test.

Unknown Speaker 6:40
He's, he's more of an expert than me still. But yeah.

Speaker 2 6:43
Okay, I'm going to use the term splash page, splash page, splash page.

Speaker 3 6:48
Yeah. If you want to splash page if you want a landing page landing

Unknown Speaker 6:52
page, okay.

Unknown Speaker 6:54
Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 3 6:55
Whatever the case is, it's really good to use, you know, Wix or Squarespace for that because it's really quick and easy for you to get that set up. But as soon as you're like, hey, you know, I want to add more features I want, you know, a session where I can have more autonomy with my ecommerce with some of the things that I'm trying to sell with some of the things that I want to promote. Well, Wix and Squarespace. It's really good in the beginning, but as your business and your website begins to scale, then it's a lot more difficult to make some of these changes. And that's when I recommend using a web application like WordPress, because WordPress has been around for a very long time. It was

Speaker 2 7:29
it was a legend around when that geo city was around WordPress around into I'm just saying it was a little bit after

Speaker 3 7:34
juicy stone age. And then WordPress is a little bit more or less.

Speaker 2 7:38
Yeah, they call in the Stone Age 99. In the 90s is the stone age really. And that's well, you also the early 2000s, because MySpace transition to Facebook in early 2000s, right, so they call that the stone age. My legs go ahead

Speaker 3 7:52
in this technology in this technology space, like everything moves so quickly. And so like, I would say that, especially if you're trying to get started out, don't stress about this is going to be the best thing from business right now. It's really about getting the exposure as soon as you can, especially if you're a small business, and you're just starting out, getting exposure is the number one priority. And having a good website, just to get started is is key. You don't have to worry about I need all the bells and whistles because that can come later. You can scale and do all of that stuff later. And that's really what I specialize in. I made a lot of custom applications using WordPress or even custom software. So not a lot of businesses when they start off. They don't necessarily need all of that unless you're trying to solve for a very unique problem. If you just want your contact information, a splash page or a landing page author, Wix or Squarespace is definitely a good tool to do that.

Speaker 2 8:40
Okay, so that's so that's where you started. What would you recommend? Okay, I'm in business, I want to scale it. Social media. So do you handle the social media aspect of it as well? Because there's a lot of access. I see a lot of stuff on social media. And I know the people are not doing it because they don't say a thing I don't deny because when I see them in person, they can't figure out how to how to work the phone. I know they're not doing it. So do you do that as well like the social media Instagrams and the Facebook's and Tik Tok? And is that all of them? I know, it's more than that. Yeah, there's

Unknown Speaker 9:15
a lot more than that. The big one

Speaker 2 9:18
is Instagram, Instagram, Facebook, tick tock, Twitter, Twitter. Do people still,

Speaker 1 9:23
I mean, Twitter is dying, but like it's still around. It's still around. We got threads happening now just because Elon Musk is ruining Twitter actively every day. But yeah, it's it's that's kind of in limbo.

Unknown Speaker 9:36
Okay, got it. Got it. So do you do that as well?

Speaker 3 9:38
I do. And what I do especially is like integrating a lot of social media pages because, like, you know, what you just mentioned there's so many different social media outlets out there, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and within that there's a lot of different mediums that can use an Instagram. You have Instagram stories. You have Instagram reels, you have Instagram posts, and YouTube now you have

Speaker 1 9:56
YouTube shorts with everything is copying Tik Tok redefinition. And then

Speaker 3 10:01
just short form distribution content. And that's the word. It's something that you're just kind of

Speaker 2 10:07
slow down, talking off it, you know, sorry, the older people less enough because we didn't because we we you we got we got phones to that stuff. So would you say short form

Unknown Speaker 10:17
distribution content distribution content,

Speaker 2 10:20
so we call them video vignettes, same thing, okay, video. Because this is this may be less than two minutes, something like that it's a video vignette.

Speaker 1 10:32
Sounds nice, silky. That's

Speaker 3 10:37
all of that is very good for your business. But you want to make sure it ties into your business. Because if you have a lot of things out there, you need to unify that. So when someone was looking for a business online, let's say you have a mechanic shop, right, and then one of the search for your mechanic shop. Well, you know, chances are, your website might come up, your Instagram might come up, but you want one central place to kind of tie all of that in. And that's how Google knows to send traffic when someone is looking for the mechanic shop. And the best way to do that is to have all that on your website. Because now that Google Analytics, Google in general, when you're searching on Google, hey, my car broke down, I'm looking for a mechanic, you know, and I just type in mechanic near me Las Vegas, we typed that in. And if your business comes out, it's really good to have all of your social media channels on your website as well. So when you're directing people to your website, they know exactly oh, this person has a Facebook page, they have an Instagram, they have a tick tock and it builds more SEO, for your your business as on what SEO means is search engine optimization

Speaker 2 11:34
and waiters. Okay, so search engine optimization, search engine. Okay, go ahead.

Unknown Speaker 11:42
It's basically a fancy word for like, how's

Speaker 2 11:44
your race? I get your fancy SEO and geo linkable?

Speaker 1 11:48
You know, you know, like, so. Yeah. So think about like AOL keywords, kind of the same thing from back then, you know, it's just, it's just what what words will tell the search engine, how to find your website. So the name of the thing and then more specific stuff like that?

Speaker 2 12:06
And see, I thought the honestly, because I've had a website for as long as I've been in business, right, of course. And I took my website down in the pandemic, because I wanted to revamp and revive and we've had a landing page for some years now. And never really I knew I had my website was cool. before. It was it was good to have multiple pages, and you could click the file and your refund, everything tax related everything. Was there picture well organized. It was. Yeah, it was very well organized, but the amount and it was like five years. Yeah. And the my web does. He was like, Lea, you got to take it down. And I'm like, why works? So he said, I'm gonna take it down. I said, Oh, and we've been now we're about to redo it. But I thought it was interesting. Because even in building the page, what information do you really want on there? What I mean? Because I mean, you don't that you don't know what you don't know, what what do you have on there? And when you go out there and look at other people's sites? Oh, my God, that's a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 3 13:04
Yeah, you know, I would say when you're making a website, it really just boils down to like two things. One, you're trying to sell something, whether it's like a physical product or service, or two, you're trying to build awareness, right, maybe you're trying to do something in politics, or you're, you work for a nonprofit, but you're still selling something, but it's just not directly. And the best way to do that is to have really good content. And really a website, at the end of the day, it's just another piece of content that's representing you and your brand. So if you have a business, your Tick Tock, your Instagram, your website, this is all part of your brand. And really, it really depends on what type of content you're putting out there, whether it comes to the website, or your Instagram page, you want it to always tie in to whatever you're selling, or whatever you're trying to promote. So when

Speaker 2 13:47
cuz one of my women, my good friend, she's a web content administrator. And as a web, and I always was like, Man, you get paid to play on Facebook, and we used to joke about it, right? You get paid to post that. But during certain times, it was a crucial position because she was reporting to the Chief Information Officer. So if big companies are taking this position seriously, as a small businesses probably need to start looking at our content and what's out there.

Speaker 3 14:16
Exactly. And you know, in this day and age, there's so many great tools to make really good content. I'm sure you guys have heard of Chuck GPT. Yes, yes. And there's so many ways that you can utilize charge GPT in terms of productivity, also making content. Now I feel like with AI and chat GPT it's really good to get you about 60% of the way what then you can kind of tell that it's been, you know, created by a robot, right?

Speaker 1 14:41
Yeah, well, no, it's true. Like Chachi beauty is is great. When you know how it interprets the syntax of what you're saying. Like I only just started using it literally last weekend because I was feeding it my generic base. Take a short resume and asking it to basically make this sound more professional make the sound more oriented for this kind of service or that kind of field and this at the other. And it really can tell it, you can give it a little and it'll make a lot. But if you aren't specific in what you want, it can come out pretty dry. So it's a lot of experimentation. A lot of

Speaker 2 15:26
experiments that people are using catch up. A lot of different people mentioned will AI, period, yeah, period. Now they had somebody, one of the robots have some take the CPA exam. They did? Well, they did. It failed the first time. Because everybody failed. Everybody fails. So I was like, at least I don't feel bad, right? failed the first time. But I think that we're going to absolutely,

Speaker 3 15:52
and I think it's really time for us embrace that technology. Some people are worried like, Oh, this is going to replace what I do on a daily basis. But you should really see it as an augmentation, something that can help you with whatever you're doing. Because, you know, I'm going to go back to the mechanic shop plug sample, again, if I want a mechanic shop, and I want to make a website, you know, and I need content for it, I might not be the best, you know, copywriter, because all I want to do is fix cars, but then, you know, speaker, not copyright, just the best speaker or best speaker, and you know, you just need to have some type of copy for your website, you need, you know, images and videos. But then if I'm not the best, you know, in terms of writing and all that, I can use chat GPT to say, Hey, can you write me a paragraph about what my what I do is that mechanic but is that pleasure, it's not, it's free to use, and then it's commercial free, so you can use it on your business. So it's a free tool. And again, the copy and whatever it generates, it's not going to take you home 100% of the way there. But I think that's special because now you get to modify it and add your own flair to it. So you know, it is going to be 100% unique to you at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 16:58
Right? And then you can ask it a variety of questions. So you'll probably get a different perspective from what you're thinking. So say talking to somebody? Yeah, in other words, right. Okay, so

Speaker 1 17:06
I, I was gonna say it's kind of like you're giving yourself a foundation or like, you're, you're making the foundation of a sandbox, and then you're building within that sandbox, you're making it your own god, it's like, it's like you have you have an outline. And now you have a story. Oh, you know what I mean? Like you're adding your own voice to it, right? If you leave it with just what it gives you, you know, you can do that it's functional, right? But if it doesn't, if whatever you're making with it doesn't sound like you. And people then you know, connect with you meet you, however you actually interact, and it's truly yourself. They're gonna see that discrepancy. Exactly.

Unknown Speaker 17:41
Indeed, where's discrepancy? I'm sorry. Hey, thank you.

Unknown Speaker 17:48
Sometimes people get upset when I have a vocabulary, we have a

Speaker 2 17:50
vocabulary. So websites again, can you give me your contact information so we can share it with the listeners?

Speaker 3 17:56
Yes, absolutely. Well, you can always reach me on my email address. And my email address is Hello at Studio canvas.com. That's canvas with a K. So K N va? s.com. Do what again? Hello at Studio canvas.com. Okay, you have a number? Yes, you can call me at 702-688-1905.

Speaker 2 18:20
All right, and the reason and say it again? Because we weren't you know, just if you're if you're listening one more time?

Speaker 3 18:26
Yes, my email address is Hello at Studio canvas.com. And you can reach me at 702-688-1905.

Speaker 2 18:33
All right, and you want to be mindful by how long does it take you to actually build a website? Say you have a business been around for a couple of years. So they have some traction, they know what they they have an idea of what they want? How long would it take you to build that time,

Speaker 3 18:49
I would say you know, every client and case is a little different. But roughly anywhere from about two to three weeks, it really depends on what type of assets that the client has. So if they have copy, they have photos and videos that's ready for me to use, then it makes it much easier for me to actually build the website. Now if they don't. Once again, going back to Chad JpT example I say hey, just to get started on your mechanic business, I'm going to go ahead and generate some content for you. And if you like it, then we can modify it along the way. And same thing with images. Now we're in the day and age where I can actually generate images regarding whatever website or thing or whatnot, and then it's going to be very close to email, whatever I

Speaker 2 19:26
now do you get into because I know what images sometimes you got to make sure that they're not owned by somebody else. Make sure they're for general use.

Speaker 3 19:34
If it's generated by AI it's 100% free to use in this commercial. Yeah.

Speaker 2 19:38
Okay. All right. Well, you know what you are listening to the less awkward Lea and Rhonda show and I am Lea Crawford I am here with my co host Mr. Wesley Knight. Lastly Wesley Thank you. Thank you for always being there for me and doing you know just showing up for me so because Rhonda Rhonda is doing her thing. Oh, it's

Unknown Speaker 19:58
fun to fill in. Thanks. Appreciate that.

Speaker 2 20:00
But then back to you. Again, website. Very important, very important. How often do you believe that someone should update their website?

Speaker 3 20:14
I think that it should really be based on how much they're updating their brand. So if they're pumping out content on social media, if they have a new product out, they want to be updated on the website. So it's always up to date. Now, there's ways where you can automate that. So you can automatically fetch whatever you post on Instagram, that whatever you're posting on Facebook.

Speaker 2 20:33
Yeah, I added another term, we fetch and stuff,

Speaker 3 20:38
basically, is just another fancy word for just saying it's always going to keep your website up to date, without you manually going in there and putting the latest, you know, Facebook posts or whatnot, it's going to do that for you automatically.

Speaker 2 20:50
Oh, wow. And you can you can set that up? Absolutely.

Speaker 1 20:53
Doesn't work similar to like an RSS feed. Is that kind of the idea? Yes, exactly.

Unknown Speaker 20:59
I see that you got telling them they?

Speaker 1 21:03
What is that? an RSS feed, you can think of it as, um, typically, there you get like headlines for like news, you know, you can put in the, you get a feed reader, which is just a plugin for any browser, right. And let's say you go on to any newspaper you like, so New York Times, whatever. And it'll have an RSS feed. Now, what that'll do is the review journal. So you're on the review journal, and whenever and you have an RSS feed, you plug it into your are your RSS feed reader, on your web browser, on your phone, whatever it is, every time they post a new thing, you get an automatic notification, it's like getting an email notification. But instead, it's just a small, little, little ping. And it just kind of sits there in that programming thing.

Speaker 2 21:53
Because as you're right, because as your business grows, you're offering different services, you've expanded services, or you just want to update, you know, updating your pricing and different things like that. You kind of want to look at it. So just as often as your business is growing. I like that. I like that. So are there any other services you provide?

Speaker 3 22:13
It's mostly web development. And I, I did mention that before I do a lot of software development as well. This is more so in the special use case, if perhaps your business requires a special type of content management system, or if your checkout system that you have at the front desk is not operating as you would like. That's something that I can dive deeper into as to see how I can optimize that. So I have more as a consultant with any type of technology that you might utilize on a daily basis. Nice.

Unknown Speaker 22:40
So how long have you been doing this?

Speaker 3 22:42
I've been doing this since 2018 2018. That's

Speaker 2 22:45
when you started the business now, did you go to school for it? Did you get any special start? You need any special certifications to do this? Or

Speaker 1 22:51
a lot of certifications? You can get web development? From what I understand, right? Yes, there

Speaker 3 22:56
is. I actually went to school for graphic design, and that might into marketing. And so once upon a time, I was a graphic designer. And so for a lot of the websites that I build now, I designed them myself. And so that means that

Speaker 2 23:07
you design a logo, so we're going back to them, we're going deeper because you want a logo, yes. Right. So you want the logo now do you now what would you recommend somebody copyright the logo, or you just leave the logo, you just put the logo on the business and put it on some cards and start going?

Speaker 3 23:24
I think yeah, because you know, when you're a new business, you just want to just get the ball rolling, right? Yeah, you can worry about the legalities, copyright and all that later. Unless you know, your logo happens to look very similar to like McDonald's

Speaker 2 23:36
trademark service, Mark, it's like that. Right? Right. So I want to be careful,

Speaker 3 23:39
right? Because some people they might get, you know, kind of stuck on all the little details. But you don't have to, I think with entrepreneurship, it's really about urgency. You want to make sure that you keep things moving, and you have to stay focused. And so if you have a logo, you have an idea and you're confident you have a plan, then you need to start executing.

Speaker 2 23:56
Got it okay, but at some point, you should look at maybe getting the state a service mark, whether it's a trademark so that you know that this is your baby, because you don't want you to build something that somebody else come in and do some things right? Yeah, down the road. that's legal. Right?

Speaker 3 24:12
Exactly. You don't want to run in type of you know, legality issues with your competitor or whatnot. So you want to make sure you do your research and all the content and the logo that you're about to create is not going to step on anyone's toes so you know it's going to protect you for the time being and then once you gain more exposure, you know in your business grows, then you might want to look into more of the legality and all of that.

Speaker 2 24:31
Got it but no, but don't start there. Let's just get got to get going. Let's go over this one more time, because I think we have a couple of minutes left in the show. New business owner, I'm just starting I have this idea. I need a website because of my business plan. I want to put a website up something just go to what think of Wix or Squarespace. Squarespace? Yes, Wix or Squarespace. Now is that a monthly subscription or annual subscription? They

Speaker 3 24:57
have both different plans. They're free, they have a free plan. but it's a little bit limited. And so the more things that you want, then you have to pay as you go, okay? But it's really good to get started

Speaker 2 25:05
really good to get started, then as you grow the business and you're scaling, then you probably want to do something different and get a web content and it's an investment. For business owners, this is an investment, because this helps to grow your business. I see people now using Calendly. A lot. So oh, so see what's up. So Calendly is a way for you to schedule meetings without necessarily have to have any call and talk to someone, you link it to your calendar, and people can pick times, and then both parties will get a confirmation about the

Speaker 1 25:41
meeting. And the sounds like how we schedule when you guys come in to record something like that. Yes, something

Speaker 2 25:45
something like that. But I see people going towards that. I'm a little bit old fashioned. I need I need you to talk to somebody, we need to talk to you. We still need to talk to you. We need to have a conversation. I need to make sure we not crazy person to person to I prefer person I prefer but a lot of people are going towards that. You know, and I don't know the the back end if you have to accept the meeting or whatever. But I would hope you do. A lot

Speaker 1 26:12
of that stuff is automatic. But I know there's like it probably works the same way as a Google Calendar notification where it's like it's out there. And it'll show up on the calendar. But you still have the option to say yes, no, maybe

Speaker 2 26:24
comment. Okay. And or propose a different time or something?

Unknown Speaker 26:28
I would assume. Yeah.

Speaker 2 26:29
Okay. All right. All right. So technology, guys, so we need to become a little bit better with technology. That sounds like that's where we're going.

Speaker 1 26:36
Yeah, and tech literacy will make all the difference for literally everybody. Literally,

Speaker 2 26:40
everybody. Well, Ben, you want to thank you. Thank you very much for coming on the show today. I appreciate you taking your time. Just one more time for our listeners. Let's give you a telephone number.

Speaker 3 26:51
Absolutely. My telephone number is 702-688-1051 again, 702-688-1905. And then your email address. My email is Hello at Studio Canvas. Canvas. Okay, so that's Hello at St. udiokanvas.com. Alright, or

Speaker 2 27:11
you can just Google his name right? You can just Google studio canvas. Right. And you should you should pop up and you can see is that Google? Double right? Is Google, Google searchable sort of search engine, search engine optimization CLR and some terms today Right, right. Well guys, I want to say thank you again for listening to us and you want to stay tuned to hear us next week because we're talking about Bitcoin. Next week. We are talking about bitcoin and how you get started. Again, you're listening to the less talk with Leah and Rhonda show. I am Lea Crawford. Stay cool. Drink a lot of water. If Rhonda was here. She would tell you to touch your toes. I'm gonna say enjoy yourself. Have an amazing, amazing weekend and get ready because the kiddos about to go back to school. Oh boy. All right. And so next time this is Lea Crawford signing off,

Unknown Speaker 27:59
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